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	<title>Comments on: They Call It Democracy &#8211; Part 3</title>
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		<title>By: Stuart Hertzog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Hertzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, you may be right in that May could yet still slither out from under the financial charge on a technicality. Without access to the EDA&#039;s financial records it&#039;s almost impossible for me to know exactly where any of that money was spent. That&#039;s for Elections Canada to decide, hopefully through a thorough financial audit.

But the financial imbalance is only one aspect of my complaint. The other and possibly more pertinent issue is the unequal access to Party goods and services that hampered by efforts. I&#039;ll be writing about this in the next episode on this site, so stay tuned.

As you have pointed out here and in other places, there is a tangled mess  of questionable practices around the way in which Ms May and company have used taxpayer-funded Party money to advance her personal political career at the expense of all other Green Party candidates. Where there&#039;s smoke, there&#039;s fire.

$150,000 poured into Central Nova is a huge amount of money for a small national political party to put into one riding, especially as most EDAs scrape along with almost nothing while other ridings have no ongoing Green presence. As well, the payments to &#039;the first Green MP&#039; Blair Wilson should give Greens pause for concern. That&#039;s not how taxpayers&#039; money should be used.

Like many others, I demand a higher level of ethical integrity  from  Green politicians than has been the norm for other Canadian political parties. My experience with Elizabeth May has led me to believe that despite her claim that she could bring decorum to the house, her motivation and actions are no less self-serving than any other disrespected politician.

There&#039;s a lot more to politics than just aiming at a comfortable retirement seat in the Senate, which appears to be Ms May&#039;s ultimate goal. She may have won this nomination non-contest, but she has entirely lost both my respect, and my support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, you may be right in that May could yet still slither out from under the financial charge on a technicality. Without access to the EDA&#8217;s financial records it&#8217;s almost impossible for me to know exactly where any of that money was spent. That&#8217;s for Elections Canada to decide, hopefully through a thorough financial audit.</p>
<p>But the financial imbalance is only one aspect of my complaint. The other and possibly more pertinent issue is the unequal access to Party goods and services that hampered by efforts. I&#8217;ll be writing about this in the next episode on this site, so stay tuned.</p>
<p>As you have pointed out here and in other places, there is a tangled mess  of questionable practices around the way in which Ms May and company have used taxpayer-funded Party money to advance her personal political career at the expense of all other Green Party candidates. Where there&#8217;s smoke, there&#8217;s fire.</p>
<p>$150,000 poured into Central Nova is a huge amount of money for a small national political party to put into one riding, especially as most EDAs scrape along with almost nothing while other ridings have no ongoing Green presence. As well, the payments to &#8216;the first Green MP&#8217; Blair Wilson should give Greens pause for concern. That&#8217;s not how taxpayers&#8217; money should be used.</p>
<p>Like many others, I demand a higher level of ethical integrity  from  Green politicians than has been the norm for other Canadian political parties. My experience with Elizabeth May has led me to believe that despite her claim that she could bring decorum to the house, her motivation and actions are no less self-serving than any other disrespected politician.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot more to politics than just aiming at a comfortable retirement seat in the Senate, which appears to be Ms May&#8217;s ultimate goal. She may have won this nomination non-contest, but she has entirely lost both my respect, and my support.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Summers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart, I&#039;ve shown myself to be definitely no fan of Elizabeth May, and I&#039;m not sure why I feel compelled to say this since I have no stake in this.

But I have to say that you are barking up the wrong tree- pretty much from start to finish.

There is no evidence at all that any funds were used to promote Mays candidacy for the nomination.

As to why it was transferred in- the GPC has transferred in buckets of money to all of Mays campaigns- including tons of it into the EDAs before and after the actual campaigns. [Except with the London North Centre by-election where there was not time for that.]

Over $100,000 was REPORTED as spent by the Central Nova EDA BEFORE the writ was dropped. On top of all the staff salaries not reported, paid by the GPC, and lumped in as party expenses. [As was the case with the actual candidate campaign.]

At least another $50,000 was spent by Central Nova after the election.

This is why they transferred in the $62,000. Its been their modus operandi for over 2 years now. The permanent, and expensive, four seasons and year to year Elizabeth May campaign.

You may have some case as to why/how they can do this even before she is nominated. But this is normal for all parties. They were on pretty solid ground for presuming she was the candidate. you didn&#039;t even enter the picture until after she was the presumed candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart, I&#8217;ve shown myself to be definitely no fan of Elizabeth May, and I&#8217;m not sure why I feel compelled to say this since I have no stake in this.</p>
<p>But I have to say that you are barking up the wrong tree- pretty much from start to finish.</p>
<p>There is no evidence at all that any funds were used to promote Mays candidacy for the nomination.</p>
<p>As to why it was transferred in- the GPC has transferred in buckets of money to all of Mays campaigns- including tons of it into the EDAs before and after the actual campaigns. [Except with the London North Centre by-election where there was not time for that.]</p>
<p>Over $100,000 was REPORTED as spent by the Central Nova EDA BEFORE the writ was dropped. On top of all the staff salaries not reported, paid by the GPC, and lumped in as party expenses. [As was the case with the actual candidate campaign.]</p>
<p>At least another $50,000 was spent by Central Nova after the election.</p>
<p>This is why they transferred in the $62,000. Its been their modus operandi for over 2 years now. The permanent, and expensive, four seasons and year to year Elizabeth May campaign.</p>
<p>You may have some case as to why/how they can do this even before she is nominated. But this is normal for all parties. They were on pretty solid ground for presuming she was the candidate. you didn&#8217;t even enter the picture until after she was the presumed candidate.</p>
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